Board Thread:Roleplaying/@comment-7262318-20190828021314/@comment-5543592-20190828141742

"Thane Lokvir earned his in the Civil War." Old Smith told Jack. "He was a Shield-Thane for the High King.  When the war ended, he needed to be rewarded for his service.  Rorik was a Legion loyalist, a freeholder given this land because of his service to the Empire.  It was stripped from him, and given to Lokvir to govern.  Lokvir collects his taxes and pays his dues to the higher lords.  He is a model subject." "Perhaps so, but I'm not lowborn," Vander said.

"I've read my share of judisprudence. Admittedly, it was predominantly Bretonnic judisprudence, but the concepts generally apply to Skyrim as well. We can make a good case."

Old Smith still did not look comfortable with the idea, but was unwilling to tell them off. "Be careful.  These are powerful men.  They won't like that power being challenged."