Board Thread:Roleplaying/@comment-17114085-20150127181142/@comment-17114085-20150128215342

DaedraBorn101 wrote: (Ok, so, I'm going to approach this with a peaceful mind now.

I did not win the battle in one sentence. You seem to have forgotten the part where I was holding the King up at knifepoint. Which, I would like to add, ended with this king being able to shove away this highly trained and armed to the teeth assassin like he was a pile of trash. That's a completely different argument that I would have let go of if not for this. You also seemed to have forgotten the part where I unleased a barrage of catapult rounds onto the city and had my archers on overwatch while my Mages and Warriors stormed the city. The two armies came to a collision at the gate. Do you think it would be necessary for me to fill up a post about the fight?

Another thing, I cannot stand this "100 times bigger" thing. I can understand Tamriel being 100 times larger, but the cities too? They would be like 25 times the size of New York City. No one could ever build a city of such size, especially with the lack of technology in TES.

Also, I can't believe you said "They wouldn't be rattled by a surprise attack". That is ludicrous. I want you to imagine a group of people armed to the teeth bursting into your home. Would you not be the least bit rattled? I can understand them fighting back, I'm not expecting them to cower and run. But to say that they're not surprised by this attack is completely and utterly ridiculous.

Furthermore, you've made these catapults useless. I've got 4 Catapults unleashing wave after wave after wave of munitions on this city, and they can only muster up 100 casualties? In a city of 5400 citizens and 1000 guards?Really?

And another thing, the fact that the King is coming out to fight and direct is also ludicrous. King's are the most valuable man in the entire kingdom, and he comes out to fight against this hulking army? That's insane! I don't send Talyn out to fight, because he's the king! I'd be ok if it was a general, but a KING?!

And finally, and this is about the overall RP; Taking a city is borderline impossible. You put in a HUGE amount of resources, soldiers, time, and money into taking a simple city, and it's almost not worth it. Adding to that is how EASY it is for someone to rebel. If the taxes are a bit to high, or the religion isn't the same, or if your leader doesn't match their race, all hell will break lose. So, I can't expand past Morrowind. I'll take Vvardenfell, a small chunk of the mainlands, and I've hit my full potential due to all these restricitions and restrictions and restrictions.

But, you'll probably won't care about this and may even remove my Co-GM position for this. So, if you feel like responding, ok, but let this be the last time we talk about it. I'll just go along with the current battle.) (You had your assassin head to make the King surrender, then had your artillery fire and your army head it. That isn't the battle, that is the start of the battle. So yes, you have to RP the actual battle.

New York has less than 5000 people? Really? I wasn't aware of that. Wow, amazing. I thought it had millions of people. Now taking things seriously have you ever heard of Arena and Daggerfall? In those games the cities were much, much larger and the map was thousands of times larger than it is in Skyrim. In Daggerfall, who's map was in-lore supposed to be smaller than the size of Skyrim, has the relative size of about 400,000 km2. Skyrim's map is only about 40 km2. So yeah, it is not at all absurd that the cities have 5000-something citizens and have the size to fit those people.

The soldiers of Balmora are just as armed as those of your nation. So no, even if it is surprise attack they wouldn't be rattled and thus become easy prey. Sure there would be chaos do to the catapult rounds breaking a few buildings but it wouldn't make the standing army of about 1000 men become shit. Especially since they are fighting for their home, their families and friends. The adrenaline from that alone would snap them into overdrive.

You expected to kill a half or more of the army with a few catapult rounds? Firing into a city? And not even into a building where a bunch of them would be staying, like I don't know the barracks? Or the palace? No, you just fired randomly. So of course you only killed 100 men. For all anyone knows you hit someone's house, the Fighter's Guild building and the inn. Like seriously, what did you expect. Also I didn't even mention the civilian deaths, only the soldiers' deaths. I was too busy replying to 100-ish posts to estimate the numbers of citizens that could've been killed by the barrage of the catapults.

Kings and rulers that don't lead their armies are cowards and honestly pussies. IRL, in-lore and in the games we see rulers leading and fighting with their armies. That is what they do. They also help to inspire their troops. Also, this is the king's only holding. This is his last stand basically, of course he'd fight in it. Only a fat bastard wouldn't step up to defend his home from heretical invaders. Martin led his people and he was the last Emperor of his line. Ulfric led his people even though he was the face and soul of his rebellion. Emperor Titus II led his people in retaking their capital. IRL Kings and rulers led their armies all the damn time. So don't go saying that it is crazy that the King of Balmora is heading off to lead the defense of his city.

Complaning about the restriction and the possibility of rebelions. Let me tell you so far there has only been one rebellion, in Narsis where House Hlaalu and their allies rebelled against Sunny's House Indoril occupation. That was it. So don't go saying that everything causes rebellions, because people have done some crazy stuff and that is all that happened. And speaking of how 'not worth it' it is to take a city. That is the only way to expand and get more soldiers. If not then your nation will just remain the same size forever, and if you are fine with that then so be it. But if you want to expand then that is just what you have to do. And speaking of the restrictions, which aren't restrictions they are merely penalties, do you honestly think that the people of Cyrodiil will be fine with a Daedric Worshiping Dunmer to just conquer the whole province and name himself the Emperor? Hell no, hence why he'd have to expand slowly and spread his faith and religion or else the people would rebel against him. Same thing for the Hist worshiping Argonians and the Nords, and the Redguards, etc. People wouldn't accept their rule at first and would rebel, that is just common sense.

If this is how you feel about the RP then I honestly don't know why you even bother to continue here. If you don't like Tamriel Total War then just quit. I don't stay in RPs that bug me, even if they are my own, and neither should anyone. While your overreaction to me wanting you to RP the battle is very off-putting I won't remove you from Co-GM position, as I don't think one slip up should be enough to do so. And I said that even if the battle's outcome is the same, which it would be, you still need to RP it. You wouldn't need to change a damn thing about what you did later. You would just have to post what happened in between the post were you started the battle and the one sentence that you used to finish it.)