Board Thread:Roleplaying/@comment-17114085-20150131101228/@comment-17114085-20150203112112

SkyrimsShillelagh wrote:
 * Wanikiy:  How did things ever get so far? I don't know. It was so unfortunate, so unnecessary. Stormhold has lost men and land and I have lost a son. We're quits. And if Tattaglia agrees, then I'm willing to let things go on the way they were before.
 * Stormhold: We're all grateful to Archwarden Wanikiy for calling this meeting. We all know him as a man of his word. A modest man who will always listen to reason.
 * Soulrest: Yes, he is too modest. He had all the towns and villages in his pocket and refused to share them.
 * Wanikiy: When – when did I ever refuse an accommodation? All of you know me here. When did I ever refuse, except one time? And why? Because I believe this city-state buisness is going to destory us for years to come. I mean, it's not like war or Imperialism.  The other nations, if we go on like this, will not leave us alone, they will come, and they will attack. And I believed that then, and I believe that now.
 * Stormhold: Times have changed. It's not like the old days when we could do anything we want. A refusal is not the act of a friend. Wanikiy had all the towns and villages in Argonia, and he must share them. He must let us draw the water from the well. Certainly, he can present a bill for such services. After all, we are not Imperials.
 * There was laughter all around.
 * Wanikiy: I hoped that we would come here and reason together. And as a reasonable man, I'm willing to do whatever is necessary to find a peaceful solution to these problems.
 * Stormhold: Then we are agreed. The sharing of vassals will be permitted, but controlled, and Archwarden Wanikiy will give up protection in the West – and there will be the peace.
 * Gideon: But I must have strict assurance from Wanikiy. As time goes by and his position becomes stronger, will he attempt any individual vendetta?
 * Stormhold: Look, we are all reasonable Saxheel here. We don't have to give assurances as if we were lawyers.

      Wanikiy: You may talk about vengeance. but Is vengeance going to bring your sons (figuratively) back to you, or  my boys to me? I forgo the vengeance of my own. But I have selfish reasons. My most trusted friend was forced to leave this country because of all this Stormhold business. Alright...but now I had to make arrangements to bring him back here safely. But I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall him, or me for that matter, or if he should get stabbed through the heart by a guard, or if he should hang himself in his prison cell, or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning, then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room. And that, I do not forgive. But that aside, let me say that I swear...on the souls of my grandchildren...that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made here today. (You can't share vassals, that isn't how Feudalism works.)

The other Kings all heard what the Archwarden had to say out if their respect for the Hist, but ultimately they refused the offer to form the Confederation. Some of them would were however not apposed to trade agreements or another diplomatic agreement. Murkwood and Soulrest disliked Lilmoth too much to accept any sort of agreement with them. Archon was satisfied that they were able to reconquer their village, Branchgrove. Stormhold was upset that Helstrom took back Rockguard from them.

(Like I told Daedraborn, powerful nations will never accept vassilization, even if it is something more liberal like a Confederation. They'd still be subservient to you, the Archwarden of the Confederation/Union. All the Argonian states are powerful, 1500-2000 soldiers.)