Board Thread:Roleplaying/@comment-7262318-20190815003529/@comment-38998054-20190818185823

"So what you are really saying is that I'm the greatest grievance you have in this group? Did you stop to think about how the tables might have turned were I not here and did what I did today?" Hagen folded his arms

"If those I took out today had lived to runaway and kill more people and gods forbid had killed some of our own group because I didn't keep them from attacking you, then a decision to not rid them of the power to do so would actually have put even more blood on my hands. Just as you claim setting the ones free that have runaway will put even more blood on the our hands than necessary, so would it have been had I not done what I did."

"You know that any form of atonement delivered by the Jarl would include execution. That means if we led them there, then we all might as well have killed them ourselves. That means that regardless of whether I killed them or not, if we had done things your way entirely, they'd all be dead. Do you not see that?"